On transphobic “feminism”

Again with the trans related posts!”, I hear you say. When you spend so long hang­ing around with fem­i­nists and trans peo­ple, you can’t help but think about trans issues and fem­i­nism a lot. And one of the issues that came up quite a bit while I was at a party with some cool trans peo­ple and fem­i­nists ear­lier this week was Rad­Fem 2012, the upcom­ing “rad­i­cal fem­i­nist” con­fer­ence in Lon­don. But how­ever good it sounds, it has a hor­ri­ble policy:

In turn we ask that Rad­Fem 2012 be respected as a space where women born women liv­ing as women are able to meet and share infor­ma­tion in a peace­ful and safe environment.

Rad­i­cal fem­i­nism, as it’s com­monly under­stood these days, is a continuation/evolution of second-wave fem­i­nism sep­a­rate from third-wave fem­i­nism. This, in turn, belies a prob­lem: com­ing from the strong roots of the sec­ond wave (indeed, some view the third wave as revi­sion­ism in the Marx­ist sense), it can’t adapt itself well to the ideas of the twenty-first cen­tury (as opposed to the ‘60s through ‘80s). One of the most obvi­ous flaws is the reac­tion to men in the move­ment. And when I say men, I gen­er­ally mean any­one born with a penis.

Now, obvi­ously fem­i­nism will, and should, remain a woman-centric move­ment. But the game has changed. From the orig­i­nal ideas of the patri­archy, now come the ideas of kyr­i­archy and inter­sec­tion­al­ity, which under­stands that there is not just male priv­i­lege, but also white priv­i­lege, reli­gious priv­i­lege, straight priv­i­lege, cis priv­i­lege, and so on. And they all inter­sect in ways: for exam­ple, CeCe McDon­ald, as I posted, was dis­ad­van­taged and oppressed both as a trans woman and a black woman. And most peo­ple are aware of this fact: you often hear left-wing peo­ple com­plain­ing about leg­is­la­tures being full of old white Chris­t­ian men, or right-wing peo­ple com­plain­ing that  jobs are going to the myth­i­cal black les­bian in a wheel­chair (they don’t).

There are two points to make here: men and trans women (and trans men, for that mat­ter) can both bring per­spec­tives on patri­ar­chal oppres­sion that a cis woman can not. Both sets of peo­ple, after all, are brought up in a soci­ety that expects toxic mas­culin­ity, and your gen­der and or sex­u­al­ity is ques­tioned if you don’t con­form (“You don’t like foot­ball? What are you, a poof?”). Dou­bly so for trans women, which expe­ri­ence both toxic mas­culin­ity to start with, and as they tran­si­tion, become also oppressed as women through the usual avenues, and oppressed as trans when their gen­der iden­tity is denied recog­ni­tion. And of course, they are then expected to con­form to the sub­mis­sive fem­i­nin­ity demanded of women.

The argu­ment for a women-born-women space comes pri­mar­ily from the argu­ment that as trans women grow up with and ben­e­fit from male priv­i­lege, then they shouldn’t be in spaces meant for those who have been oppressed. Also in the list of rea­sons include that abusers could “claim” a female iden­tity to infil­trate spaces (although this doesn’t really hap­pen), that trans peo­ple unnec­es­sar­ily entrench the gen­der binary, and, even worse, that trans women are actu­ally men. But a space for cis women only doesn’t com­pare to the clas­sic idea of a safe space for one sim­ple rea­son: cis women are privileged.

Spaces for the oppressed or minori­ties exist as a way to col­lec­tively group against their oppres­sion. That’s the rea­son why there is a Black Police Organ­i­sa­tion but not a White Police Organ­i­sa­tion, why there are Women’s Offi­cers in stu­dent unions but not a Men’s Offi­cer, or a LGBT Soci­ety but not a Straight Soci­ety: because they don’t need them, as the wider pop­u­la­tion sees their issues as the norm. Hell, even trade unions are an exam­ple, where the work­ers group together to col­lec­tively power against their man­age­ment. If any­thing, there should be a trans-only space where trans men and women meet to dis­cuss oppres­sion, not the other way around.

Because, let’s face it, trans peo­ple are oppressed even within the fem­i­nist move­ment. There’s an idea that trans women rein­force the gen­der binary in sev­eral ways: for exam­ple, they tran­si­tion to feel “straight”, or they are too ultra-feminine or ultra-masculine. But the first one erases the ideas of les­bian trans women and gay trans men, and the lat­ter erases the ideas of femme trans men and butch trans women. And they’re forced into ideas of ultra-femininity because that’s what soci­ety expects of them, not often because of any choice. Of course, any fail­ure to be fem­i­nine also raises ire from peo­ple who claim they’re not true women.

The idea of “true women” is, how­ever, incred­i­bly essen­tial­ist, and not even con­sis­tent. One exam­ple where the idea falls apart is in women with com­plete andro­gen insen­si­tiv­ity syn­drome. These are women who have XY chro­mo­somes but, due to their body’s inabil­ity to process andro­gens, exter­nally resem­ble women (to the point it often isn’t realised until puberty), and are hor­mon­ally female, are brought up as female, and are often quite wel­comed into cis-women-only spaces despite their Y chro­mo­some. So, some­times, are clos­eted trans women, as the organ­is­ers of the Michi­gan Womyn’s Fes­ti­val know well.

The rad­i­cal fem­i­nist oppo­si­tion to trans women is just trans­pho­bia. It’s evi­dent in the lan­guage used: “male-to-trans”, “men”, “tranny”, and so on, to refer to the trans women them­selves, and “hand­maid­ens” or “men’s rights activists” for their allies.  And, for trans men, they’re more than wel­come in women-born-women spaces. It’s a con­certed effort to deny a person’s gen­der iden­tity by claim­ing that it’s all a lie, and that they know bet­ter about someone’s gen­der iden­tity than that per­son them­selves. It’s sim­i­lar to the MRA idea of mansplain­ing, to the point it’s been termed cis­s­plain­ing. And it ignores what we know about gen­der iden­tity: that a) it’s fuck­ing com­pli­cated, and, more impor­tantly, b) trans­gen­der iden­ti­ties have existed through­out his­tory, even in non-patriarchal soci­eties. It’s not an impo­si­tion by the patri­archy, despite what oppo­nents claim.

Indeed, there’s an uncom­fort­able sim­i­lar­ity with con­ser­vatism in this respect: just as one of the cri­te­ria of a true woman is the abil­ity to bear chil­dren, so does a mar­riage, which is why trans peo­ple or same-gender cou­ples shouldn’t be recog­nised. But hey, women who have had hys­terec­tomies can marry, and like­wise too they are recog­nised as “true women”. There’s also the shar­ing of ter­mi­nol­ogy, from deroga­tory terms that only seek to lessen the iden­tity of trans peo­ple, to the old canard that they’re not “trans­pho­bic” because “I ain’t scared of trannies!”

Such an Easy Mis­take to Make” by Barry Deutsch, CC-BY 3.0

Take for exam­ple,  Sheila Jef­freys, one of the keynote speak­ers of Rad­Fem 2012. In a recent pod­cast last year on the sub­ject of “mod­er­ate” fem­i­nism, she said trans­gen­derism is:

[A] prac­tice  in which per­sons who do not adhere to the  cor­rectly gen­dered prac­tices that have been placed upon the bio­log­i­cal sex are con­sid­ered to have some­thing called Gen­der Iden­tity Dis­or­der and they’re expected to cross over into the other sex. Not crit­i­cize the gen­dered sys­tem as it exists, because that’s unthink­able but to make some kind of “jour­ney” by muti­lat­ing their bod­ies and tak­ing dan­ger­ous drugs for the rest of their lives in order to sup­pos­edly rep­re­sent the oppo­site sex.

This is not some ran­dom rad­i­cal fem­i­nist: this is a keynote speaker and famous second-wave rad­i­cal fem­i­nist. When you look in the dregs of the inter­net, it only gets worse.

This is why trans­pho­bic fem­i­nism shouldn’t be regarded fem­i­nism. At the heart of all fem­i­nist thought is the one key idea: women have full self-agency which must not be breached on account of their wom­an­hood (and, as a corol­lary, this often extends to all gen­ders). It’s why you see peo­ple like Sarah Palin claim to be fem­i­nists, but they aren’t regarded as such, because no fem­i­nist would want to ban abor­tion in all cir­cum­stances. And like­wise, trans­pho­bia breaches a trans person’s agency by forc­ing them to iden­tify with which they would some­times rather die than do so, and even runs the risk of mar­gin­al­is­ing butch cis women because they don’t con­form to stan­dard ideas of being female. That, or trans peo­ple can’t dis­cuss oppres­sion effec­tively and are forced to keep silent lest they get ejected on a trans­pho­bic premise. In the end, it’s still oppres­sion of women — no mat­ter whether they are cis or trans — and we should not recog­nise any per­son who delib­er­ately makes trans­pho­bic state­ments as feminist.

There is, I believe, a sil­ver lin­ing. Given its link to the sec­ond wave, it’ll hope­fully start to become less rel­e­vant to fem­i­nist activism as time goes on. There’s a new gen­er­a­tion of fem­i­nist activists from across the polit­i­cal spec­trum, from lib­eral fem­i­nists (such as myself) to anarcha-feminists to Marx­ist fem­i­nists, there is reli­gious fem­i­nism and athe­ist fem­i­nism, and more per­spec­tives that you can shake a stick at and the move­ment is health­ier for it. I’m con­fi­dent that trans­fem­i­nism, cou­pled with the rise in aware­ness in trans issues over the past ten years, will be a major com­po­nent of the “fourth wave” when it comes, if it hasn’t already. As pop­u­larised by the won­der­ful trans­fem­i­nist blog­ger Natalie Reed (really, you should read her blog, espe­cially her posts on the fourth wave):

If fem­i­nism is the rad­i­cal idea that women are peo­ple, then trans-feminism is the rad­i­cal idea that women come in dif­fer­ent containers.

7 comments

  1. Charlotte says:

    I think there’s some room for com­mu­ni­ca­tion on both sides. While I don’t have any time for the ‘trans women aren’t real women’ argu­ment, you can go too far with the argu­ment that women can learn from the expe­ri­ences of trans women/men/trans men etc and must include them in this or that aspect of their cam­paign­ing. Women have fought hard for their safe spaces, and I think pho­bia is prob­a­bly an appro­pri­ate word — some of them are afraid of hav­ing them taken over, of hav­ing their agenda diverted — I don’t agree, but I think it’s some­thing that needs talk­ing about, espe­cially with peo­ple like Natalie Reed mak­ing fairly extreme state­ments that you can’t have proper fem­i­nism with­out trans feminism.

    I don’t think it’s too much to ask that peo­ple who attend women-only events should have the expe­ri­ence of hav­ing lived as women. As long as they are viewed by soci­ety as men, trans women are priv­i­leged by the same sys­tem that simul­ta­ne­ously oppresses them — isn’t patri­archy fun? So while there’s a whole load of oppres­sion that comes with being a trans woman liv­ing as a man (for­give me if my terminology’s wrong here) I don’t see it as being an intrin­sic part of fem­i­nism — I don’t think there’s really much crossover that can be con­struc­tive in a women-only space (as opposed to its place within a broader dis­cus­sion of the gen­der binary, or a nar­rower dis­cus­sion of trans people’s issues).

    Once a trans woman starts to live as a woman, she’s affected by many of the same issues fem­i­nists talk about, plus a whole load more. So per­son­ally, as a 3rd-wave fem­i­nist heav­ily influ­enced by 2nd wave thinkers, I’d argue that FAB women should recog­nise their rel­a­tive posi­tion of priv­i­lege there, and wel­come trans women into women-only spaces. But trans women should recog­nise that their expe­ri­ences are in some ways dif­fer­ent and that there will be areas where it makes more sense to work sep­a­rately (but sup­por­t­ively) rather than together, just like with other equal­ity campaigns.

    • Sarah says:

      Of course, there are some expe­ri­ences that trans women will never have, such as hav­ing to go through child­birth. Every woman’s — and man’s — expe­ri­ence of patri­ar­chal oppres­sion is dif­fer­ent and a decent fem­i­nist cam­paign would do well to reflect them.

      There is some patri­ar­chal oppres­sion of men and trans women who live/have lived as men that I believe is rel­e­vant to fem­i­nism: the hyper­mas­cu­line man/hyperfeminine woman dichotomy. I know from expe­ri­ence, grow­ing up as a boy who wasn’t that inter­ested in some mas­cu­line activ­i­ties such as play­ing rugby or foot­ball every day, that it does come from that expec­ta­tion. I per­son­ally think a lot of the oppres­sion of trans peo­ple is rel­e­vant to fem­i­nism, which is why I’m so inter­ested in transfeminism.

      I fully sup­port women-only spaces/events (as well as LGBT-only, trans-only, PoC-only, etc), but I’m wary of cis women-only spaces as they don’t con­form well to the idea of minority-led safe spaces (as cis women are the major­ity). I’d think that, when a cis-only space was nec­es­sary, for exam­ple, to talk about repro­duc­tive issues, trans women would be under­stand­ing; I’ve seen more cis inva­sion of trans spaces than trans inva­sion of cis spaces. Per­son­ally, my bar for entry would be self-definition; it tends to work well for the NUS for their lib­er­a­tion cam­paigns. That, and it invades someone’s pri­vacy to demand to prove their sex­u­al­ity or gen­der identity.

      I wouldn’t go as far as Natalie Reed, but I really do think trans activism/transfeminism is the way for­ward. I’m 21, and involved of my university’s fem­i­nist soci­ety, and we don’t even see any­thing wrong with trans women, even those pre­sent­ing as men, with talk­ing about stuff. The party men­tioned in the begin­ning involved a cis friend of mine talk­ing about how she was so pissed off that she found out a women’s space she stayed at had a cis-only pol­icy. And as a corol­lary, I think it’s going to be become hard to defend your fem­i­nism if you’re trans­pho­bic, just as it’s hard to defend fem­i­nism if you’re homo­pho­bic or racist.

      • Charlotte says:

        We seem to be largely in agree­ment here. Just a cou­ple of clar­i­fi­ca­tions:
        1) I think women-only spaces should only be part of the com­mu­ni­ca­tion that fem­i­nists have, usu­ally a minor­ity part (Brad­ford may be an excep­tion though, it seems that you only have to *men­tion* the F word here to get a huge pile of sex­ist jokes, sneer­ing and What About Teh Menz).

        2) Gen­der stereo­typ­ing is of course rel­e­vant to fem­i­nism, but I don’t think women-only spaces are the best place to dis­cuss it. That debate affects every­one to some extent, and should be more inclu­sive. We should be using the right tools for each part of the equal­i­ties cam­paign, with good com­mu­ni­ca­tion between, um, fac­tions? Can’t think of a bet­ter word right now. And there needs to be respect, on both sides, for the fact that while both trans women and cis women are oppressed by rigid gen­der roles, it’s in dif­fer­ent ways, and some of their expe­ri­ences will be par­al­lel but dif­fer­ent. For exam­ple, my expe­ri­ence as a non-cis girl who grew up into a cis woman is not equiv­a­lent to that of a trans man (so none of the ‘they’re just rein­forc­ing the gen­der binary because they couldn’t cope with act­ing out­side gen­der norms’ argu­ments) but trans women have a dif­fer­ent set of expec­ta­tions placed on them grow­ing up to women, and their con­tri­bu­tion to dis­cussing how women are socially con­structed dur­ing child­hood will be lim­ited by that — unless it’s part of a wider dis­cus­sion of how chil­dren gen­er­ally are con­fined by gen­der norms.

        3) I think it’s also nec­es­sary when talk­ing about women-only spaces to dis­tin­guish between fem­i­nist debate spaces, and areas like women’s refuges where peo­ple pre­sent­ing as men are seen as a threat by par­tic­u­larly vul­ner­a­ble women. Where trans women fit into those ser­vices — that’s another debate, and I think it’s one for the peo­ple who deliver and use (or who need but are excluded from using) those ser­vices, I don’t feel qual­i­fied to judge.

        • Sarah says:

          Not sure how SARSVL do stuff, but I’d assume they’d give refuge to female-presenting trans women. Trans women do get raped and abused too, after all, pro­por­tion­ally more so than cis women. Everyone’s expe­ri­ences are dif­fer­ent, after all, and I think there’s respect among trans women for repro­duc­tive health cam­paigns, as much as there should be respect among cis women for trans equal­ity campaigns.

  2. Diana says:

    Is THIS even an issue? Jeesh. Some peo­ple must be bored to death with their lives.

    • Eva says:

      Yes, it is very much an issue because it affects me as an indi­vid­ual and you as part of our col­lec­tive whole.

      It’s a sad world when peo­ple think equal­ity for all isn’t worth dis­cussing or even acknowledging.

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